The Right’s Blood Lust Moment

Tsk, tsk, tsk Simmons. NK has not proved successful yet….patience; there is much time for us to be right back where we were, though I'll add we're pretty much still there. No outright proof, but recall the Israeli raid in Syria recently; bits, spots, and tidbits of NK connection to this Syrian nuclear location (including dead North Koreans), hmmmmm….. Iran? In the words of Rightwing vampire John Bolton, “The fact is that Iran will never voluntarily give up its nuclear program, and a policy based on the contrary assumption is not just delusional but dangerous. This is the road to the Nuclear Holocaust.." A statement I do not disagree with. I do not relish, nor do I scream for war, but lets not "piss our pants" fearing it as there are realities that are worse than it. Iran's fingerprints are all over difficulties in the M.E.; nukes would help wipe them away, don't you think? auflederhosen

Yawn. Careful! simmons, comparing the sitch of the Islamic Republic to NoKo exposes your risable post to several daggers of counterpoints, unhappy facts and history that render it incorrect.

Such as…

'NK has not proved successful yet' We're pretty close. And it sounds like we've known about the Syrian nuclear program for a while, since when we weren't making the smartest of decisions related to North Korea. For all we know, North Korea could have told us about their program.

Simmons, I'm sorry, I thought that some of your previous comments were perfect examples of totally misinterpreting the facts, but you've outdone yourself here. Sometimes things are just too outrageously misguided to even think of an appropriate comment. Do you ever stop thinking about the evils of the Republican Party long enough to even recognize the treats that we face? The answer, unfortunately, seems to be NO.

Essentially NoKo has used their nuclear chicanery as a parasite. Extracting sustenance, aid and then failing to provide anything in return. All that is beside the point as technically you are correct - there will be no 'invasion' of Iran. Check out 'America's Asymmetrical Hudna' and 'Operation:Great Satan' at http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/ for the war that awaits the illegitimate, corrupt, intolerant, murderous mullahs.

Essentially NoKo has used their nuclear chicanery as a parasite. Extracting sustenance, aid and then failing to provide anything in return. All that is beside the point as technically you are correct - there will be no 'invasion' of Iran. Check out 'America's Asymmetrical Hudna' and 'Operation:Great Satan' at http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/ for the war that awaits the illegitimate, corrupt, intolerant, murderous mullahs.

"threats", not "treats". There's another typo to refute.

Umm, we are already at war with Iran in Iraq, They are sending in weapons and their AlQuds force into Iraq. I am not "pissing in my pants" over going to war with Iran. I jst see the tea leaves out there. Iran will not stop their nuclear program like the NORKS, and that is still not verifiable that they will stop. See we on the right and the people that follow history, see that you can not give into tyrants and expect them to drop their arms from sanctions and negotiations. Look at what happened with WWII, Chaimberland and Russia let the Hitler play them like fools. Sitting around and singing kumbaya will not bring peace to people like the Mullahs in Iran. They only now one thing, The Stronger Survive.

lol still mad over that. I tried to explain that I wasn't refuting your typo, but obviously you weren't listening.

So….. What exactly are you arguing against?

North Korea has used its program essentially as a 'parasite'; who is to say Iran isn't doing the same thing?

NoKo doesn't have a history of destabilizing neighboring nations (except for a bad deal for their patron Red China - if Taiwan, SoKo, Japan and the Philippines develop nukes.) Iran otoh, tends to destabilize the region, seeks a shi ite crescent from Persia to the Med. Currently, Iran cannot militarily produce such a sharia law loving preachers paradise. With nukes, the sitch changes dramitically. Don't forget - Iran has been diplomatically by dang near everyone except the US and to no avail. At least NoKo would settle down for a while and take the carrots. NoKo = parasite - absorb sustenance and produce nothing. Iran gets no foreign aid in real dollars, and actively pursues hegenomy. Thats one diff. There are more.

The only way to negotiate with these Regimes( NOKO/ Iran) is by having their undivided attention like the willingness and the ability to decide that we can make them into a pile of glass on a matter of minutes… Now the appease at any cost policiesof the Carter and Clinton administartions did nothing but get us the Cole, THe African Embassies bombing, the firts WTC bombing, Somalia, and 9/11 ,,, the scary thing is that Hillary Clinton has unequivocably stated that she intend to pick up those failed policies…. Some Donkeys never learn.. She May be smart ( altough some of us doubt it) but not logical…

"We're pretty close" to thinking everything is going fine and a done deal; at least the diplomatic corps and administration believes so. We'll go through this again with NK as both Iran and the former need the nukes as a way of saying "now try and tell us what and what not to do." Meanwhile NK wants all sorts of gimmes, which they will get; one of which is the dropping of NK as a sponsor of terrorism as it offers the justification for walking out on the talks. So if they are a sponsor and get their way on dropping the classification; guess what…they're still sponsors, but we just won't call them that anymore….garbage. So much more is in it for them, yet why wouldn't they just turn around and pull the same game in the future? Personally I am not as concerned about NK as Iran. Il-Sung is a criminal and thug pulling in money in whatever means possible. Iran on the other hand is more inclined to devastate itself and as many with it as possible for the sake of it's warped vision of its religious beliefs. Their self nuclear annihilation would still be victory in their eyes; opening the door for the return of the 12th, thus establishing Islam worldwide. No Simoleon, Bush, the U.S. and the Right are not the enemies of the state, nor the reason the world is so screwed up and often violent. Had we stayed in the trees we'd still be violent and knocking the snot out of each other but we wouldn't know any better. There would also be no proselytizing or self-hatred that makes some of us cheer (not implying you) our wounds, blood and defeat because of our actions mistakenly defined as hubris.

"NoKo doesn't have a history of destabilizing neighboring nations (except for a bad deal for their patron Red China - if Taiwan, SoKo, Japan and the Philippines develop nukes.)" I don't know about you, but the Korean War was a pretty big deal.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is than to otherwise bash Hillary Clinton.

I believe someone said earlier that the verdict was out on "NoKo" - which is RIGHT smack on target. With the possibility of them being in bed with Syria, and possibly the site the Israelis wiped out a few weeks ago, I think we better leave them in the "Axis" for a while. And might I add that after talking with actual boots on the ground soldiers who had been in Iraq that were 100% positive that weapons were coming in from Iran - then whoever said we were already at war with Iran in Iraq nailed it as well.

That's it? An open admission that you cannot see past 911? The Korean war - to your credit - was a big deal. It also underscores my point - comparing a one time failed blitz backed by their only patron state to Iran's war with the world (well, maybe only part of it like Lebanon, Gaza, the WB, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kurdistan, Syria, Bosnia, Chechnya, Saudi, the Gulf Fiefdoms and Pakistan) is a lot like saying Ford Explorer = Landrover or KFed= Sir Paul McCartney.

I do not disagree arms are coming in from Iran. My point is that we are not going to invade Iran.

NoKo has broken its agreements before (in 1994 they promised to abide by the "agreed framework" and stop pursuing nuclear weapons if we all gave them aid and cash - they took the aid and cash and in 2003 were found to be reprocessing plutonium - they admitted it with glee, that's why we're at this point…again) and there's no reason to trust them now. Of course, the NoKos are selling nuclear material and know how to the Syrians, but you still don't believe that one, right? (see: crater) Your caricature of Republicans is tiresome, though I suspect you're just as tired of everyone else thinking that Dems are white flag waving socialists. Why don't we all agree that there are different tactics that attempt to get to the same place - a safe and secure America. Then again, without Bush to hate, where would the left be today?

"Of course, the NoKos are selling nuclear material and know how to the Syrians, but you still don't believe that one, right? (see: crater)" Yeah, um, actually I do think that Kim Jong Il is supplying the Syrians with technology…