Privacy Vs Security

Over at Donklephant Justin Gardner has had some rather interesting posts regarding privacy abuses under current US Anti-Terrorism laws. I’m practically Libertarian about privacy. Largely I think that stems from growing up in the middle of nowhere with so much privacy that we could have sun bathed naked on the front lawn and nobody would have known coupled with the fact that I’m an only child. I’m just used to more privacy than most Americans. On that note it was largely The Patriot Act and the ease with which it could be abused that started me down the path to become a blogger. Since the Patriot Act it’s only gotten worse. Take for example this article from the WaPo:

The U.S. government is collecting electronic records on the travel habits of millions of Americans who fly, drive or take cruises abroad, retaining data on the persons with whom they travel or plan to stay, the personal items they carry during their journeys, and even the books that travelers have carried, according to documents obtained by a group of civil liberties advocates and statements by government officials.

The personal travel records are meant to be stored for as long as 15 years, as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s effort to assess the security threat posed by all travelers entering the country. Officials say the records, which are analyzed by the department’s Automated Targeting System, help border officials distinguish potential terrorists from innocent people entering the country.

But new details about the information being retained suggest that the government is monitoring the personal habits of travelers more closely than it has previously acknowledged. The details were learned when a group of activists requested copies of official records on their own travel. Those records included a description of a book on marijuana that one of them carried and small flashlights bearing the symbol of a marijuana leaf….

The DHS database generally includes “passenger name record” (PNR) information, as well as notes taken during secondary screenings of travelers. PNR data — often provided to airlines and other companies when reservations are made — routinely include names, addresses and credit-card information, as well as telephone and e-mail contact details, itineraries, hotel and rental car reservations, and even the type of bed requested in a hotel.

The records the Identity Project obtained confirmed that the government is receiving data directly from commercial reservation systems, such as Galileo and Sabre, but also showed that the data, in some cases, are more detailed than the information to which the airlines have access.

Now combine that with this short list of abuses of current anti-terrorism law:

Now stop and think of everything you’ve ever said via phone, IM, and email that you’d prefer to remain just between you and its intended recipient. Because if we don’t draw the line soon, given the current march of technological innovation, eventually every argument with a girlfriend, every reaction to news of the death of a loved one, every remembrance of “how good last night was” will be on file somewhere. Now what bureaucrat do you trust with that?


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I don't mind the government keeping track of travel habits. If it means protecting the country against another attack, then so be it. If the want to see I went on vacation to California and I got a coffee at Starbucks, all the power to them. I could see how people could get annoyed… if they log business travel and such. I guess everyone has their own thoughts/beliefs. I'm also for a 3rd party watch dog group or gov agency to monitor that the use of this data is done correctly… any abuse of a law is wrong.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you PG. It concerns me when something of this nature shouldn't be done for fear of 'what ifs' There is a place for "what ifs" without doubt, but too often the argument is, this or that could happen so lets do nothing…that answer doesn't cut it either. As to the abbreviated list of abuses; are they truly "abuses?" Or in some instances "screw ups?"

Good to see your back Blandly! I see you are now attacking the comments at full force!

Am I getting delusional, or is someone here joining forces with the ACLU and seriously complaining about the FBI monitoring mosques? Please tell me you're joking.

Thanks…yep gotta hit the comments here…I was told that 75 Rep points earns the commenter a pinwheel….I love pinwheels. That, which I just made up and I can't stand that I don't have it up at D, but I have a trackback addiction so… I've noticed ID is picking up a bit out there in the "sphere" so just adding to it; it really is a kick*ss system

Okay, I really had to downvote that comment. The lawsuit has nothing to do with monitoring mosques (which is legal under the same conditions that monitoring a church is legal), but with the Freedom of Information Act. The FBI hadn't turned over the documents, which suggests they were spying inappropriately.

I'm having difficulty signing in, so I can't return the favor of downvoting you. However, I will say this. This is precisely where you and I disagree. To me, at this particularly perilous time in our nations' existence, there is no such thing as "inappropriately spying" on our ememies. You seem to forget the fact that we are in a war for our very existence. We no longer live in that gentlemanly environment of reasonable debate. They are trying their best to kill us. And their best allies in this endeavor are, as usual, our own delusionsl liberals.

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